[audacity4blind] Re: Selection with audacity
- From: Thomas Byskov Dalgaard <tbd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 07:35:21 +0100
Hi Manu!
Okay I think I know what’s going on here.
The issue is that your keyboard may not have the bracket keys. My keyboard is a
Danish keyboard, and doesn’t have those keys so therefor I changed them to
something else.
You can do this by exporting your keyboard settings to an xml-document and then
edit this inTextedit on your Mac. It is possible perhaps to change this from
the preferences in Audacity, but the keyboard area of the program is changed a
little, and there might be small accessibility issues here. I do not use this
area myself quite often, so I’m not sure. I did not find it very friendly to
navigate at this time, when I just checked, so therefor I would suggest you
export the keyboard shortcuts, that part is still easy to get to.
1. Go to Preferences
2. FInd in the tabel the item Keyboard.
3. Find the button called Export.
4. Save it as you do with other documents on your Mac, and then close Audacity.
5. Open it in Textedit.
6. Edit the following two lines:
Left at playback position
and:
Right at playback position.
There should be quotes around the bracket keys. DO NOT DELETE THOSE! Only
delete the left and right bracket signs and replace them with g for left, and h
for right.
NOTE: You may have to use capitals letters for Audacity to get the hotkeys
right. That was actually what I discovered after having this issue for YEARS,
and I mean years literally!
7. Save your file and close Textedit.
8. Reopen Audacity, open preferences and find the keyboard section again.
9. FInd the “Import” button,and navigate to your file.
10. Choose to import it, and when you’re done select OK within the preferences
of Audacity.
That should do the trick.
If you want, I can send my XML-document with the changed keys to you of list. I
only changed these two keys, nothing else is changed.
Best regards
Thomas
> Den 14/01/2015 kl. 00.15 skrev Manu <etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>
> Hi…
> I’m very sorry but I can’t use selection with markers…
> I can select just with interact with selection bar.
> That’ it, I will work it like the method… It’s very sad…
> Thank you for your help…
>
> Amicalement…
> ——————
>
> Manu
> - Mail : etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> - Skype : manu-dpk
>
> Découvres mes compositions personnelles sur mon site web officiel :
> http://www.manu-dpk.net <http://www.manu-dpk.net/>
>
> L'association DVRGV, c’est quoi ?
> Elle regroupe un ensemble de personnes passionnées par le son. Le but
> est de faire découvrir à tout individu passant par ici, des métiers, des
> ambiances sonores, à travers des reportages d’une quinzaine de minutes.
> Pour en savoir plus, c’est ici : http://www.dvrgv.org
> <http://www.dvrgv.org/>
>
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> Respectons l’environnement ! Veuillez ne pas imprimer cet e-mail, si ce n’est
> pas nécessaire.
>
>
>
>> Le 13 janv. 2015 à 23:14, Thomas Byskov Dalgaard <tbd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:tbd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> a écrit :
>>
>> Hi Manu and others!
>>
>> Manu:
>> I’m a Mac-user as well, and I have used Audacity for a couple of months.
>> I have never got the selection bar to work probably due to some
>> accessibility issues in Audacity whereVoiceover will not read the numbers if
>> you do not use the Vo-keys and the arrow keys to read the numbers.
>> David Bales has written an excellent introduction to Audacity for users of
>> Jaws, but we can all benefit from this on the Mac too, so try to find this
>> guide. It is located in the help under advanced, accessibility, I believe.
>>
>> When you are navigating Audacity you need to do this in a very windows
>> fashion way. That is not a bad thing, it is just a little unusual compared
>> to how you would use standard Mac applications.
>> What you need to do is to move the Mac’s keyboard cursor along with the
>> Voiceover cursor. That is done by pressing tab or shift-tab, as you do in
>> Windows. That is very much needed in the preferences since you otherwise
>> will miss some important informations, and the screen seems confusing. At
>> least that was what my experience was when i first used Audacity.
>>
>> You will need to disable a certain checkbox inside the preferences that
>> tells Audacity to select everything by default, as mentioned by others on
>> this list.
>>
>> Now to the selection issue:
>> 1. Record your sound.
>> 2. Playback by pressing spacebar.
>> 3. When you are at the position where you want the selection to start press
>> shift-a.
>> 4. You can either press left bracket key to set the start of selection, or
>> simply just press space again to start playback again. Now you’ll hear the
>> sound from where the cursor is placed.
>> 5. When you are at the position for the selection to end press the right
>> bracket key… perhaps press P first to pause before you set the end of
>> selection marker.
>>
>> Now you can press spacebar and hear the entire selection.
>>
>> That is how I do this most of the time.
>> Sorry for making things a little confusing, but here I have some questions
>> for selection as well:
>> I wish it would be possible to hear what is before and after the selection,
>> without removing the selection. I am not talking about the preview feature
>> where you can press e to hear how the edit will sound.
>> When I am selecting the last few seconds of a file I have an issue when I
>> have moved the cursor with shift-a. I can not play back and go to the left
>> of the cursor while I am playing the sound back. Another thing is that the
>> increments the movements are sometimes are way to big, so instead of hearing
>> the last four seconds, I hear 10 or 14 seconds instead.
>> And lastly:
>> … And if I set the cursor a wrong place with shift A I can’t get before that
>> spot, as mentioned, and sometimes I just need to hear what’s coming up if I
>> need to make some edits so the recording still sounds natural, and if I need
>> to move the cursor back to an earlier spot I have to press home to get to
>> the begining of the track instead of moving the cursof a little to the lfet
>> or just be able to hear a little to the left of the cursor.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Thomas
>>> Den 13/01/2015 kl. 19.41 skrev Manu <etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Thank for your reply.
>>> I tested theses following actions :
>>> 1. R : to record my voice (OK)
>>> 2. Space Bar : To play (OK)
>>> 3. Shift+A : to pause and put cursor for my begin selection (OK)
>>> 4. Right arrow Key few time : to adjust selection landscape bar to play
>>> selection (OK)
>>> 5. Delete :( Error) All content of my recording is deleted.
>>> I see in selection bar and the piece of my recording is selected as well.
>>>
>>> 1. R : to record my voice (OK)
>>> 2. Space Bar : To play (OK)
>>> 3. Shift+A : to pause and localise the begin selection (OK)
>>> 4. Adjust selection with select bar : Begin selection to 000001seconds to
>>> end selection 0000003S (OK)
>>> 5. Delete (OK)
>>> But this method is easier than the first method…
>>> Haïe, Haïe, Haïe...
>>>
>>> Amicalement…
>>> ——————
>>>
>>> Manu
>>> - Mail : etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> - Skype : manu-dpk
>>>
>>> Découvres mes compositions personnelles sur mon site web officiel :
>>> http://www.manu-dpk.net <http://www.manu-dpk.net/>
>>>
>>> L'association DVRGV, c’est quoi ?
>>> Elle regroupe un ensemble de personnes passionnées par le son. Le but
>>> est de faire découvrir à tout individu passant par ici, des métiers, des
>>> ambiances sonores, à travers des reportages d’une quinzaine de minutes.
>>> Pour en savoir plus, c’est ici : http://www.dvrgv.org
>>> <http://www.dvrgv.org/>
>>>
>>> —————————————————————————————————————————————
>>> Respectons l’environnement ! Veuillez ne pas imprimer cet e-mail, si ce
>>> n’est pas nécessaire.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Le 13 janv. 2015 à 18:32, vitorflash <vitorflash@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:vitorflash@xxxxxxxxxx>> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> In windows, and using an english or US keeboard, you can use the left and
>>>> right brackets to mark the beginning and end of a selection. In case of a
>>>> different keeboard, you can probably change the kee assigned to the marks
>>>> in the keeboard shortkuts dialog under the preferences menu; probably the
>>>> same applies to mac as well.
>>>>
>>>> From: Manu <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 5:16 PM
>>>> To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Selection with audacity
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your fast reply.
>>>> Like Windows system, I can select and unselect my track… I’m verifying
>>>> before editing my track…
>>>> I d’ont understand why I can’t select easily with my arrow keys…
>>>> Can we make any markers on a track like others sound editors ? Beginner
>>>> marker and end markers… After we can delete that there’s between two
>>>> markers ?
>>>>
>>>> Amicalement…
>>>> ——————
>>>>
>>>> Manu
>>>> - Mail : etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> - Skype : manu-dpk
>>>>
>>>> Découvres mes compositions personnelles sur mon site web officiel :
>>>> http://www.manu-dpk.net <http://www.manu-dpk.net/>
>>>>
>>>> L'association DVRGV, c’est quoi ?
>>>> Elle regroupe un ensemble de personnes passionnées par le son. Le but est
>>>> de faire découvrir à tout individu passant par ici, des métiers, des
>>>> ambiances sonores, à travers des reportages d’une quinzaine de minutes.
>>>> Pour en savoir plus, c’est ici : http://www.dvrgv.org
>>>> <http://www.dvrgv.org/>
>>>>
>>>> —————————————————————————————————————————————
>>>> Respectons l’environnement ! Veuillez ne pas imprimer cet e-mail, si ce
>>>> n’est pas nécessaire.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Le 13 janv. 2015 à 17:46, vitorflash <vitorflash@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:vitorflash@xxxxxxxxxx>> a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello.
>>>>> Well, i’m not a mac user and actually never used it, but i had the same
>>>>> problem with the windows version.
>>>>>
>>>>> Reading the manual, i found that by default, at least in windows, all the
>>>>> audio in a track is selected unless we actually make a selection.
>>>>> So I followed the instructions and just went to the preferences menu and
>>>>> to the tracks dialog. Tabbing arround, there i found
>>>>> Behaviors Select all audio in project, if none selected check box
>>>>> checked, and unchecked it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, it’s important to press enter to actually select a track before
>>>>> being able to edit the audio. I don’t really know if these rules apply to
>>>>> the mac system, but hope that helps anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Man
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 4:06 PM
>>>>> To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Subject: [audacity4blind] Selection with audacity
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I’m a new user of Audacity.
>>>>> I’m mac user.
>>>>> So I’d like to select a pice of record on one track. For example, begin
>>>>> selection at 00:00:03 to end selection at 00:00:03.
>>>>> I can use selection bar but if I want be more perfect I must adjust
>>>>> selection with Shift+right arrow or Shift+left Arrow or
>>>>> Shift+Command+Right arrow and Shift+Command+Left Arrow.
>>>>> But when I want to make selection with arrow key, if I delete selection,
>>>>> all content of my track is deleted. Before, I see in selection bar what
>>>>> it’s select and my selection is good.
>>>>> Please, tell me if I forget something to delete juste my selection and
>>>>> not all content of track !!!
>>>>>
>>>>> I’m french lol… Sorry for my bad english…
>>>>>
>>>>> Amicalement…
>>>>> ——————
>>>>>
>>>>> Manu
>>>>> - Mail : etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> - Skype : manu-dpk
>>>>>
>>>>> Découvres mes compositions personnelles sur mon site web officiel :
>>>>> http://www.manu-dpk.net <http://www.manu-dpk.net/>
>>>>>
>>>>> L'association DVRGV, c’est quoi ?
>>>>> Elle regroupe un ensemble de personnes passionnées par le son. Le but
>>>>> est de faire découvrir à tout individu passant par ici, des métiers, des
>>>>> ambiances sonores, à travers des reportages d’une quinzaine de minutes.
>>>>> Pour en savoir plus, c’est ici : http://www.dvrgv.org
>>>>> <http://www.dvrgv.org/>
>>>>>
>>>>> —————————————————————————————————————————————
>>>>> Respectons l’environnement ! Veuillez ne pas imprimer cet e-mail, si ce
>>>>> n’est pas nécessaire.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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