[audacity4blind] Re: Selection with audacity
- From: Manu <etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 08:14:50 +0100
Hi mister Thomas,
I’m very happy to say you, it’s OK…
I can select now with my new shortcuts….
Thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaankkkkkkkk yoooooouuuuuuuuuuuu
Amicalement…
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> Le 14 janv. 2015 à 08:00, Manu <etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :
>
> Thank you very much Thomas,
> I will try t do it…
> And I will come back to reply to you.
> Thank again
>
> Amicalement…
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>
> Manu
> - Mail : etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> - Skype : manu-dpk
>
> Découvres mes compositions personnelles sur mon site web officiel :
> http://www.manu-dpk.net <http://www.manu-dpk.net/>
>
> L'association DVRGV, c’est quoi ?
> Elle regroupe un ensemble de personnes passionnées par le son. Le but
> est de faire découvrir à tout individu passant par ici, des métiers, des
> ambiances sonores, à travers des reportages d’une quinzaine de minutes.
> Pour en savoir plus, c’est ici : http://www.dvrgv.org
> <http://www.dvrgv.org/>
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>> Le 14 janv. 2015 à 07:35, Thomas Byskov Dalgaard <tbd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:tbd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> a écrit :
>>
>> Hi Manu!
>>
>> Okay I think I know what’s going on here.
>> The issue is that your keyboard may not have the bracket keys. My keyboard
>> is a Danish keyboard, and doesn’t have those keys so therefor I changed them
>> to something else.
>> You can do this by exporting your keyboard settings to an xml-document and
>> then edit this inTextedit on your Mac. It is possible perhaps to change this
>> from the preferences in Audacity, but the keyboard area of the program is
>> changed a little, and there might be small accessibility issues here. I do
>> not use this area myself quite often, so I’m not sure. I did not find it
>> very friendly to navigate at this time, when I just checked, so therefor I
>> would suggest you export the keyboard shortcuts, that part is still easy to
>> get to.
>> 1. Go to Preferences
>> 2. FInd in the tabel the item Keyboard.
>> 3. Find the button called Export.
>> 4. Save it as you do with other documents on your Mac, and then close
>> Audacity.
>> 5. Open it in Textedit.
>> 6. Edit the following two lines:
>> Left at playback position
>> and:
>> Right at playback position.
>> There should be quotes around the bracket keys. DO NOT DELETE THOSE! Only
>> delete the left and right bracket signs and replace them with g for left,
>> and h for right.
>> NOTE: You may have to use capitals letters for Audacity to get the hotkeys
>> right. That was actually what I discovered after having this issue for
>> YEARS, and I mean years literally!
>> 7. Save your file and close Textedit.
>> 8. Reopen Audacity, open preferences and find the keyboard section again.
>> 9. FInd the “Import” button,and navigate to your file.
>> 10. Choose to import it, and when you’re done select OK within the
>> preferences of Audacity.
>>
>> That should do the trick.
>> If you want, I can send my XML-document with the changed keys to you of
>> list. I only changed these two keys, nothing else is changed.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Thomas
>>> Den 14/01/2015 kl. 00.15 skrev Manu <etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>:
>>>
>>> Hi…
>>> I’m very sorry but I can’t use selection with markers…
>>> I can select just with interact with selection bar.
>>> That’ it, I will work it like the method… It’s very sad…
>>> Thank you for your help…
>>>
>>> Amicalement…
>>> ——————
>>>
>>> Manu
>>> - Mail : etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> - Skype : manu-dpk
>>>
>>> Découvres mes compositions personnelles sur mon site web officiel :
>>> http://www.manu-dpk.net <http://www.manu-dpk.net/>
>>>
>>> L'association DVRGV, c’est quoi ?
>>> Elle regroupe un ensemble de personnes passionnées par le son. Le but
>>> est de faire découvrir à tout individu passant par ici, des métiers, des
>>> ambiances sonores, à travers des reportages d’une quinzaine de minutes.
>>> Pour en savoir plus, c’est ici : http://www.dvrgv.org
>>> <http://www.dvrgv.org/>
>>>
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>>>> Le 13 janv. 2015 à 23:14, Thomas Byskov Dalgaard <tbd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:tbd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> Hi Manu and others!
>>>>
>>>> Manu:
>>>> I’m a Mac-user as well, and I have used Audacity for a couple of months.
>>>> I have never got the selection bar to work probably due to some
>>>> accessibility issues in Audacity whereVoiceover will not read the numbers
>>>> if you do not use the Vo-keys and the arrow keys to read the numbers.
>>>> David Bales has written an excellent introduction to Audacity for users of
>>>> Jaws, but we can all benefit from this on the Mac too, so try to find this
>>>> guide. It is located in the help under advanced, accessibility, I believe.
>>>>
>>>> When you are navigating Audacity you need to do this in a very windows
>>>> fashion way. That is not a bad thing, it is just a little unusual
>>>> compared to how you would use standard Mac applications.
>>>> What you need to do is to move the Mac’s keyboard cursor along with the
>>>> Voiceover cursor. That is done by pressing tab or shift-tab, as you do in
>>>> Windows. That is very much needed in the preferences since you otherwise
>>>> will miss some important informations, and the screen seems confusing. At
>>>> least that was what my experience was when i first used Audacity.
>>>>
>>>> You will need to disable a certain checkbox inside the preferences that
>>>> tells Audacity to select everything by default, as mentioned by others on
>>>> this list.
>>>>
>>>> Now to the selection issue:
>>>> 1. Record your sound.
>>>> 2. Playback by pressing spacebar.
>>>> 3. When you are at the position where you want the selection to start
>>>> press shift-a.
>>>> 4. You can either press left bracket key to set the start of selection, or
>>>> simply just press space again to start playback again. Now you’ll hear the
>>>> sound from where the cursor is placed.
>>>> 5. When you are at the position for the selection to end press the right
>>>> bracket key… perhaps press P first to pause before you set the end of
>>>> selection marker.
>>>>
>>>> Now you can press spacebar and hear the entire selection.
>>>>
>>>> That is how I do this most of the time.
>>>> Sorry for making things a little confusing, but here I have some questions
>>>> for selection as well:
>>>> I wish it would be possible to hear what is before and after the
>>>> selection, without removing the selection. I am not talking about the
>>>> preview feature where you can press e to hear how the edit will sound.
>>>> When I am selecting the last few seconds of a file I have an issue when I
>>>> have moved the cursor with shift-a. I can not play back and go to the left
>>>> of the cursor while I am playing the sound back. Another thing is that the
>>>> increments the movements are sometimes are way to big, so instead of
>>>> hearing the last four seconds, I hear 10 or 14 seconds instead.
>>>> And lastly:
>>>> … And if I set the cursor a wrong place with shift A I can’t get before
>>>> that spot, as mentioned, and sometimes I just need to hear what’s coming
>>>> up if I need to make some edits so the recording still sounds natural, and
>>>> if I need to move the cursor back to an earlier spot I have to press home
>>>> to get to the begining of the track instead of moving the cursof a little
>>>> to the lfet or just be able to hear a little to the left of the cursor.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>> Thomas
>>>>> Den 13/01/2015 kl. 19.41 skrev Manu <etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> Thank for your reply.
>>>>> I tested theses following actions :
>>>>> 1. R : to record my voice (OK)
>>>>> 2. Space Bar : To play (OK)
>>>>> 3. Shift+A : to pause and put cursor for my begin selection (OK)
>>>>> 4. Right arrow Key few time : to adjust selection landscape bar to play
>>>>> selection (OK)
>>>>> 5. Delete :( Error) All content of my recording is deleted.
>>>>> I see in selection bar and the piece of my recording is selected as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. R : to record my voice (OK)
>>>>> 2. Space Bar : To play (OK)
>>>>> 3. Shift+A : to pause and localise the begin selection (OK)
>>>>> 4. Adjust selection with select bar : Begin selection to 000001seconds to
>>>>> end selection 0000003S (OK)
>>>>> 5. Delete (OK)
>>>>> But this method is easier than the first method…
>>>>> Haïe, Haïe, Haïe...
>>>>>
>>>>> Amicalement…
>>>>> ——————
>>>>>
>>>>> Manu
>>>>> - Mail : etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> - Skype : manu-dpk
>>>>>
>>>>> Découvres mes compositions personnelles sur mon site web officiel :
>>>>> http://www.manu-dpk.net <http://www.manu-dpk.net/>
>>>>>
>>>>> L'association DVRGV, c’est quoi ?
>>>>> Elle regroupe un ensemble de personnes passionnées par le son. Le but
>>>>> est de faire découvrir à tout individu passant par ici, des métiers, des
>>>>> ambiances sonores, à travers des reportages d’une quinzaine de minutes.
>>>>> Pour en savoir plus, c’est ici : http://www.dvrgv.org
>>>>> <http://www.dvrgv.org/>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 13 janv. 2015 à 18:32, vitorflash <vitorflash@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> <mailto:vitorflash@xxxxxxxxxx>> a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In windows, and using an english or US keeboard, you can use the left
>>>>>> and right brackets to mark the beginning and end of a selection. In case
>>>>>> of a different keeboard, you can probably change the kee assigned to the
>>>>>> marks in the keeboard shortkuts dialog under the preferences menu;
>>>>>> probably the same applies to mac as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Manu <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 5:16 PM
>>>>>> To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Selection with audacity
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for your fast reply.
>>>>>> Like Windows system, I can select and unselect my track… I’m verifying
>>>>>> before editing my track…
>>>>>> I d’ont understand why I can’t select easily with my arrow keys…
>>>>>> Can we make any markers on a track like others sound editors ? Beginner
>>>>>> marker and end markers… After we can delete that there’s between two
>>>>>> markers ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Amicalement…
>>>>>> ——————
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Manu
>>>>>> - Mail : etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> - Skype : manu-dpk
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Découvres mes compositions personnelles sur mon site web officiel :
>>>>>> http://www.manu-dpk.net <http://www.manu-dpk.net/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> L'association DVRGV, c’est quoi ?
>>>>>> Elle regroupe un ensemble de personnes passionnées par le son. Le but
>>>>>> est de faire découvrir à tout individu passant par ici, des métiers, des
>>>>>> ambiances sonores, à travers des reportages d’une quinzaine de minutes.
>>>>>> Pour en savoir plus, c’est ici : http://www.dvrgv.org
>>>>>> <http://www.dvrgv.org/>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le 13 janv. 2015 à 17:46, vitorflash <vitorflash@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> <mailto:vitorflash@xxxxxxxxxx>> a écrit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello.
>>>>>>> Well, i’m not a mac user and actually never used it, but i had the same
>>>>>>> problem with the windows version.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Reading the manual, i found that by default, at least in windows, all
>>>>>>> the audio in a track is selected unless we actually make a selection.
>>>>>>> So I followed the instructions and just went to the preferences menu and
>>>>>>> to the tracks dialog. Tabbing arround, there i found
>>>>>>> Behaviors Select all audio in project, if none selected check box
>>>>>>> checked, and unchecked it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, it’s important to press enter to actually select a track before
>>>>>>> being able to edit the audio. I don’t really know if these rules apply
>>>>>>> to the mac system, but hope that helps anyway.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Man
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 4:06 PM
>>>>>>> To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> Subject: [audacity4blind] Selection with audacity
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> I’m a new user of Audacity.
>>>>>>> I’m mac user.
>>>>>>> So I’d like to select a pice of record on one track. For example, begin
>>>>>>> selection at 00:00:03 to end selection at 00:00:03.
>>>>>>> I can use selection bar but if I want be more perfect I must adjust
>>>>>>> selection with Shift+right arrow or Shift+left Arrow or
>>>>>>> Shift+Command+Right arrow and Shift+Command+Left Arrow.
>>>>>>> But when I want to make selection with arrow key, if I delete
>>>>>>> selection, all content of my track is deleted. Before, I see in
>>>>>>> selection bar what it’s select and my selection is good.
>>>>>>> Please, tell me if I forget something to delete juste my selection and
>>>>>>> not all content of track !!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I’m french lol… Sorry for my bad english…
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Amicalement…
>>>>>>> ——————
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Manu
>>>>>>> - Mail : etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> - Skype : manu-dpk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Découvres mes compositions personnelles sur mon site web officiel :
>>>>>>> http://www.manu-dpk.net <http://www.manu-dpk.net/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> L'association DVRGV, c’est quoi ?
>>>>>>> Elle regroupe un ensemble de personnes passionnées par le son. Le but
>>>>>>> est de faire découvrir à tout individu passant par ici, des métiers,
>>>>>>> des ambiances sonores, à travers des reportages d’une quinzaine de
>>>>>>> minutes.
>>>>>>> Pour en savoir plus, c’est ici : http://www.dvrgv.org
>>>>>>> <http://www.dvrgv.org/>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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