[audacity4blind] Re: Selection with audacity
- From: Manu <etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 08:00:59 +0100
Thank you very much Thomas,
I will try t do it…
And I will come back to reply to you.
Thank again
Amicalement…
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> Le 14 janv. 2015 à 07:35, Thomas Byskov Dalgaard <tbd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> a
> écrit :
>
> Hi Manu!
>
> Okay I think I know what’s going on here.
> The issue is that your keyboard may not have the bracket keys. My keyboard is
> a Danish keyboard, and doesn’t have those keys so therefor I changed them to
> something else.
> You can do this by exporting your keyboard settings to an xml-document and
> then edit this inTextedit on your Mac. It is possible perhaps to change this
> from the preferences in Audacity, but the keyboard area of the program is
> changed a little, and there might be small accessibility issues here. I do
> not use this area myself quite often, so I’m not sure. I did not find it very
> friendly to navigate at this time, when I just checked, so therefor I would
> suggest you export the keyboard shortcuts, that part is still easy to get to.
> 1. Go to Preferences
> 2. FInd in the tabel the item Keyboard.
> 3. Find the button called Export.
> 4. Save it as you do with other documents on your Mac, and then close
> Audacity.
> 5. Open it in Textedit.
> 6. Edit the following two lines:
> Left at playback position
> and:
> Right at playback position.
> There should be quotes around the bracket keys. DO NOT DELETE THOSE! Only
> delete the left and right bracket signs and replace them with g for left, and
> h for right.
> NOTE: You may have to use capitals letters for Audacity to get the hotkeys
> right. That was actually what I discovered after having this issue for YEARS,
> and I mean years literally!
> 7. Save your file and close Textedit.
> 8. Reopen Audacity, open preferences and find the keyboard section again.
> 9. FInd the “Import” button,and navigate to your file.
> 10. Choose to import it, and when you’re done select OK within the
> preferences of Audacity.
>
> That should do the trick.
> If you want, I can send my XML-document with the changed keys to you of list.
> I only changed these two keys, nothing else is changed.
>
> Best regards
> Thomas
>> Den 14/01/2015 kl. 00.15 skrev Manu <etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>:
>>
>> Hi…
>> I’m very sorry but I can’t use selection with markers…
>> I can select just with interact with selection bar.
>> That’ it, I will work it like the method… It’s very sad…
>> Thank you for your help…
>>
>> Amicalement…
>> ——————
>>
>> Manu
>> - Mail : etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> - Skype : manu-dpk
>>
>> Découvres mes compositions personnelles sur mon site web officiel :
>> http://www.manu-dpk.net <http://www.manu-dpk.net/>
>>
>> L'association DVRGV, c’est quoi ?
>> Elle regroupe un ensemble de personnes passionnées par le son. Le but
>> est de faire découvrir à tout individu passant par ici, des métiers, des
>> ambiances sonores, à travers des reportages d’une quinzaine de minutes.
>> Pour en savoir plus, c’est ici : http://www.dvrgv.org
>> <http://www.dvrgv.org/>
>>
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>>> Le 13 janv. 2015 à 23:14, Thomas Byskov Dalgaard <tbd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> <mailto:tbd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> a écrit :
>>>
>>> Hi Manu and others!
>>>
>>> Manu:
>>> I’m a Mac-user as well, and I have used Audacity for a couple of months.
>>> I have never got the selection bar to work probably due to some
>>> accessibility issues in Audacity whereVoiceover will not read the numbers
>>> if you do not use the Vo-keys and the arrow keys to read the numbers.
>>> David Bales has written an excellent introduction to Audacity for users of
>>> Jaws, but we can all benefit from this on the Mac too, so try to find this
>>> guide. It is located in the help under advanced, accessibility, I believe.
>>>
>>> When you are navigating Audacity you need to do this in a very windows
>>> fashion way. That is not a bad thing, it is just a little unusual compared
>>> to how you would use standard Mac applications.
>>> What you need to do is to move the Mac’s keyboard cursor along with the
>>> Voiceover cursor. That is done by pressing tab or shift-tab, as you do in
>>> Windows. That is very much needed in the preferences since you otherwise
>>> will miss some important informations, and the screen seems confusing. At
>>> least that was what my experience was when i first used Audacity.
>>>
>>> You will need to disable a certain checkbox inside the preferences that
>>> tells Audacity to select everything by default, as mentioned by others on
>>> this list.
>>>
>>> Now to the selection issue:
>>> 1. Record your sound.
>>> 2. Playback by pressing spacebar.
>>> 3. When you are at the position where you want the selection to start press
>>> shift-a.
>>> 4. You can either press left bracket key to set the start of selection, or
>>> simply just press space again to start playback again. Now you’ll hear the
>>> sound from where the cursor is placed.
>>> 5. When you are at the position for the selection to end press the right
>>> bracket key… perhaps press P first to pause before you set the end of
>>> selection marker.
>>>
>>> Now you can press spacebar and hear the entire selection.
>>>
>>> That is how I do this most of the time.
>>> Sorry for making things a little confusing, but here I have some questions
>>> for selection as well:
>>> I wish it would be possible to hear what is before and after the selection,
>>> without removing the selection. I am not talking about the preview feature
>>> where you can press e to hear how the edit will sound.
>>> When I am selecting the last few seconds of a file I have an issue when I
>>> have moved the cursor with shift-a. I can not play back and go to the left
>>> of the cursor while I am playing the sound back. Another thing is that the
>>> increments the movements are sometimes are way to big, so instead of
>>> hearing the last four seconds, I hear 10 or 14 seconds instead.
>>> And lastly:
>>> … And if I set the cursor a wrong place with shift A I can’t get before
>>> that spot, as mentioned, and sometimes I just need to hear what’s coming up
>>> if I need to make some edits so the recording still sounds natural, and if
>>> I need to move the cursor back to an earlier spot I have to press home to
>>> get to the begining of the track instead of moving the cursof a little to
>>> the lfet or just be able to hear a little to the left of the cursor.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Thomas
>>>> Den 13/01/2015 kl. 19.41 skrev Manu <etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Thank for your reply.
>>>> I tested theses following actions :
>>>> 1. R : to record my voice (OK)
>>>> 2. Space Bar : To play (OK)
>>>> 3. Shift+A : to pause and put cursor for my begin selection (OK)
>>>> 4. Right arrow Key few time : to adjust selection landscape bar to play
>>>> selection (OK)
>>>> 5. Delete :( Error) All content of my recording is deleted.
>>>> I see in selection bar and the piece of my recording is selected as well.
>>>>
>>>> 1. R : to record my voice (OK)
>>>> 2. Space Bar : To play (OK)
>>>> 3. Shift+A : to pause and localise the begin selection (OK)
>>>> 4. Adjust selection with select bar : Begin selection to 000001seconds to
>>>> end selection 0000003S (OK)
>>>> 5. Delete (OK)
>>>> But this method is easier than the first method…
>>>> Haïe, Haïe, Haïe...
>>>>
>>>> Amicalement…
>>>> ——————
>>>>
>>>> Manu
>>>> - Mail : etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> - Skype : manu-dpk
>>>>
>>>> Découvres mes compositions personnelles sur mon site web officiel :
>>>> http://www.manu-dpk.net <http://www.manu-dpk.net/>
>>>>
>>>> L'association DVRGV, c’est quoi ?
>>>> Elle regroupe un ensemble de personnes passionnées par le son. Le but
>>>> est de faire découvrir à tout individu passant par ici, des métiers, des
>>>> ambiances sonores, à travers des reportages d’une quinzaine de minutes.
>>>> Pour en savoir plus, c’est ici : http://www.dvrgv.org
>>>> <http://www.dvrgv.org/>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Le 13 janv. 2015 à 18:32, vitorflash <vitorflash@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> <mailto:vitorflash@xxxxxxxxxx>> a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>> In windows, and using an english or US keeboard, you can use the left and
>>>>> right brackets to mark the beginning and end of a selection. In case of a
>>>>> different keeboard, you can probably change the kee assigned to the marks
>>>>> in the keeboard shortkuts dialog under the preferences menu; probably the
>>>>> same applies to mac as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Manu <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 5:16 PM
>>>>> To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Subject: [audacity4blind] Re: Selection with audacity
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for your fast reply.
>>>>> Like Windows system, I can select and unselect my track… I’m verifying
>>>>> before editing my track…
>>>>> I d’ont understand why I can’t select easily with my arrow keys…
>>>>> Can we make any markers on a track like others sound editors ? Beginner
>>>>> marker and end markers… After we can delete that there’s between two
>>>>> markers ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Amicalement…
>>>>> ——————
>>>>>
>>>>> Manu
>>>>> - Mail : etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> - Skype : manu-dpk
>>>>>
>>>>> Découvres mes compositions personnelles sur mon site web officiel :
>>>>> http://www.manu-dpk.net <http://www.manu-dpk.net/>
>>>>>
>>>>> L'association DVRGV, c’est quoi ?
>>>>> Elle regroupe un ensemble de personnes passionnées par le son. Le but
>>>>> est de faire découvrir à tout individu passant par ici, des métiers, des
>>>>> ambiances sonores, à travers des reportages d’une quinzaine de minutes.
>>>>> Pour en savoir plus, c’est ici : http://www.dvrgv.org
>>>>> <http://www.dvrgv.org/>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 13 janv. 2015 à 17:46, vitorflash <vitorflash@xxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>> <mailto:vitorflash@xxxxxxxxxx>> a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello.
>>>>>> Well, i’m not a mac user and actually never used it, but i had the same
>>>>>> problem with the windows version.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Reading the manual, i found that by default, at least in windows, all
>>>>>> the audio in a track is selected unless we actually make a selection.
>>>>>> So I followed the instructions and just went to the preferences menu and
>>>>>> to the tracks dialog. Tabbing arround, there i found
>>>>>> Behaviors Select all audio in project, if none selected check box
>>>>>> checked, and unchecked it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, it’s important to press enter to actually select a track before
>>>>>> being able to edit the audio. I don’t really know if these rules apply
>>>>>> to the mac system, but hope that helps anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Man
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 4:06 PM
>>>>>> To: audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:audacity4blind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> Subject: [audacity4blind] Selection with audacity
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> I’m a new user of Audacity.
>>>>>> I’m mac user.
>>>>>> So I’d like to select a pice of record on one track. For example, begin
>>>>>> selection at 00:00:03 to end selection at 00:00:03.
>>>>>> I can use selection bar but if I want be more perfect I must adjust
>>>>>> selection with Shift+right arrow or Shift+left Arrow or
>>>>>> Shift+Command+Right arrow and Shift+Command+Left Arrow.
>>>>>> But when I want to make selection with arrow key, if I delete
>>>>>> selection, all content of my track is deleted. Before, I see in
>>>>>> selection bar what it’s select and my selection is good.
>>>>>> Please, tell me if I forget something to delete juste my selection and
>>>>>> not all content of track !!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I’m french lol… Sorry for my bad english…
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Amicalement…
>>>>>> ——————
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Manu
>>>>>> - Mail : etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:etann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> - Skype : manu-dpk
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Découvres mes compositions personnelles sur mon site web officiel :
>>>>>> http://www.manu-dpk.net <http://www.manu-dpk.net/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> L'association DVRGV, c’est quoi ?
>>>>>> Elle regroupe un ensemble de personnes passionnées par le son. Le but
>>>>>> est de faire découvrir à tout individu passant par ici, des métiers, des
>>>>>> ambiances sonores, à travers des reportages d’une quinzaine de minutes.
>>>>>> Pour en savoir plus, c’est ici : http://www.dvrgv.org
>>>>>> <http://www.dvrgv.org/>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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