[ddots-l] Re: Windows 10 Classic Theme

  • From: Phil Muir <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 14:36:01 +0000

James. If you have product keys for Windows 7 then you just need a Windows 7
OEM disk. That is unless you already have one :-)

On 22 December 2015 14:27:05 GMT+00:00, James Malone <malone_j@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

Hey Bill, How much is windows 7?
I'm down to one system that is running windows 7, and I really like to
have
a backup just in case this system dies.
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Bill
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 5:48 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Windows 10 Classic Theme

If you or your DAW builder need a copy of Windows7, I have a bunch in
stock.

info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx or +1 610 783 6692.

-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of D!J!X!
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 8:34 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Windows 10 Classic Theme

Windows 7 is still being sold at certain places, and you could if you
bought
a windows 10 machine downgrade to windows 7. However since most serious
DAW
users would have a computer built for this purpose, you can request
your
builder to build with win 7

HTH, DJX

-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Dave Hillebrandt
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 12:08 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Windows 10 Classic Theme

Thanks Bill, Sounds like it is possible to get something out of it in
win 8
then, so might be worth the shot. Especially since not using much in
the way
of features, might get away with it, but have feeling it may be the
things I
need, hahaha. Hanging onto win 7 as long as I can and still prefer
keeping
dedicated pc for just Sonar, so at this point its still possible to get
a
very fast computer with a new copy of windows 7.
Dave

On 12/21/2015 10:38 AM, Bill wrote:
Hello, Dave, and all,

My recommendation would be to first try installing SONAR and
CakeTalking under Windows8 and 10 with the understanding that some
features of CakeTalking simply will fail. Also, understand that we
cannot provide any technical support for CakeTalking under
post-Windows7
versions.

However, if you just want to record and play back some audio tracks,
you may find that it works well enough to do what you have to do.
The
advantage is that you won't have to learn a lot of new commands.
However, you are the only one who can determine if CakeTalking offers

you enough functionality to make it a feasible solution under
Windows8
or 10. As far as we know, both SONAR and CakeTalking will install
under
post-Windows7 versions.

Bill

-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dave Hillebrandt
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 8:43 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Windows 10 Classic Theme

Hi Phil, Perhaps you can help me to understand how this will effect
my
use of caketalking with win. 8 or 10. As many are suggesting, i will
need to upgrade from win 7 to 8 or 10 before too long, and though I
know it doesn't work the way it should with the newer 8 and 10,
wonder
if these changes effect the basic uses of the recording audio like
simply recording audio from a mic and not using midi. Is this
possible
with the newer windows. Am currently not using hotspot clicker or
anything like that and primarily record with line in or mic so kind
of
hoping could still get away with that on newer system. Do you know if

this is possible or would it not even be worth my time? Thanks in
advance, Dave

On 12/21/2015 5:40 AM, Phil Muir wrote:
Agree with Steve on this :-) Think he is using colour to detect
where we are on screen. That would explain why CT throws a bit of a

fit if something isn't quite write on screen. Note: HSC also does
this if we are using colour to report the status of a button E.G.
enabled or disabled and if that changes for some reason E.G. a
different colour than expected then HSC will throw a fit but in an
even more spectacular fashion :-)



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-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve S
Sent: 21 December 2015 10:24
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Windows 10 Classic Theme

Thanks Bill. If you get a chance to ask him I'd be interested to
know
what exactly the sticking point is, as I'd of thought position of
co-ordinates are determined by the screen res and not the theme?
Could be wrong, but there's obviously something that is making the
change to Win 10 insurmountable, but I can't think what it is unless

it is colour...but colours can be changed of course. Best Steve.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 1:44 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Windows 10 Classic Theme

Good question for Mr. Pinto, Steve. But I believe it relies on the
Classic theme for more than color. I believe it allows the scripts
to accurately predict X-Y positions of screen objects.

-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve S
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 5:32 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Windows 10 Classic Theme

Ok, so CT relies on the Classic theme, but what specifically is it
relying on? Is it just colour? Jaws is hopeless at determining
colour
in my experience, as it's very flakey to say the least. HSC uses
another DLL for colour recognision, so just wondering what the
sticking point is. Best Steve.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 6:44 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Windows 10 Classic Theme

Hi,

If anyone finds a way to fabricate the Windows Classic theme in
versions of Windows later than Windows7, please let us know. That
is, if you can fabricate the Windows Classic theme and make it so
that CakeTalking works as

it should. As far as I know, David Pinto tried and failed to create

a Windows Classic Theme that would work with CakeTalking under
Windows8 and later as it does with Windows7 and earlier.

Here's an entry we need to add to our CakeTalking FAQ page:

Will CakeTalking Work when Installed under Windows8 and 10?

Regretfully, CakeTalking will not run under Windows 10, Windows8. or
8.1.
If you want to upgrade to any of those versions of Windows from
Windows7 or earlier, our recommendation would be to set up some kind

of dual boot so that you would have the option to startup into
Windows7 to use SONAR with CakeTalking or into the newer version of
Windows.
Microsoft dropped support for their Windows Classic theme with
release of Windows8. Since CakeTalking relies on that theme to know

the position of certain objects on the screen, major functions of
CakeTalking fail under
Windows8 and 10.

Bill


-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Can Kirca
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 1:04 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Windows 10 Classic Theme

As an alternative, you can read following topic;

http://www.howtogeek.com/133405/how-to-get-classic-style-themes-back-
o
n-wind
ows-8/

2015-12-20 19:40 GMT+02:00, Phil Muir
<info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
The Windows Classic theme doesn't exist in Windows 10. The only
option is to copy it from a Windows 7 install. However, keep in
mind that even if you can do that and get it working then you may
well be compramising other features in Windows 10.

On 20 December 2015 17:32:51 GMT+00:00, Roger Baccus
<rogerbaccus@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
How do I change to Windows Classic Theme in Windows 10? I read
that
it is in the Privacy tab, but, I can't seem to get it! Please
help.
CakeTalking is not happy!
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