[ddots-l] Re: drums a wider sound

  • From: "Mike Christer" <m-christer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 18:14:12 -0000

First, you've gotta pan each separate track.  
when you copy & paste the original to its nu destination, paste it not 
beginning at, for instance, bar 01:01:01, but at bar 01: 01: 025...  

along with the panning, this creates the width, akin to quote tracking unquote, 
or "double-tracking"...  

l8r

Mike
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Omar Binno 
  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 4:27 PM
  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: drums a wider sound


  DJX,

  if we just copy a track, doesn't it just copy the info from it? so if a track 
is recorded stereo with a mono sound like drums, isn't the copied track gonna 
be the same, hence not allowing you to get a panned sound? wouldn't i have to 
actually play the drum track on a new track and pan them that way?
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: D!J!X! 
    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 10:48 PM
    Subject: [ddots-l] Re: drums a wider sound


    if you're doing hip hop, here are some ways:
    Take to samples that sound similar or that you might already be layering. 
split them out to 2 separate tracks and pan them out a bit. If you're only 
using 1 sample, take a copy of the track, change the pitch on it a bit and 
again play with the panning. Spread the channels out as far as you'd like to 
split the sound. The same can be applied to kicks, it all depends on what kick 
type you're using. For a bass kick like a tooned 808 or 909, you could do some 
of it, for other more thump kicks or dry kicks that serve as gound for the 
beat, it might not be a good idea.
    Another way of widening the stereo image for any instrument that is mono or 
too centered, pan it out to 1 side, then get a delay effect and insert it, send 
the delay back on the opposite side and set a small amount of delay. play with 
the setting till you get the amount of widening you want. Hard to explain in 
writing, this is 1 of those things that works better as a walk through. 
    These are some of the techniques i can think of from the top of my head, 
there's more though.

    HTH, D!J!X!



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    From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Omar Binno
    Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 10:22 PM
    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [ddots-l] drums a wider sound


    Hello,

    I've gotten the art of making my drums sound decent as far as punchiness, 
bass, loudness, etc. What i'm wondering, though, is what's a good way to make 
them sound wider? I know drums aren't usually recorded completely stereo, but 
i'm listening to radio recordings and the drums sound wider than they do in my 
recordings. any plugins or techniques you folks could recommend?

    Thanks for all input!


    Omar Binno

    Website: www.bigoproductions.net
    AIM: LOD1116

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