[ddots-l] Re: drums a wider sound

  • From: "Omar Binno" <omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 13:46:02 -0400

hmm, so would this also work if i recorded a live guitar and wanted it stereo? 
Also, if you start the other track a mili-second later or earlier than the 
original, doesn't that mess with the quantization and the 2 tracks won't sound 
in sync?
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Darren H 
  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 1:29 PM
  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: drums a wider sound


  yeah, if the left and right panned tracks are absolutely spot on in time with 
each other, they cancel the panning out and will appear to be centered.

  Cheers
  Darren

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Mike Christer 
    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 7:14 PM
    Subject: [ddots-l] Re: drums a wider sound


    First, you've gotta pan each separate track.  
    when you copy & paste the original to its nu destination, paste it not 
beginning at, for instance, bar 01:01:01, but at bar 01: 01: 025...  

    along with the panning, this creates the width, akin to quote tracking 
unquote, or "double-tracking"...  

    l8r

    Mike
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Omar Binno 
      To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 4:27 PM
      Subject: [ddots-l] Re: drums a wider sound


      DJX,

      if we just copy a track, doesn't it just copy the info from it? so if a 
track is recorded stereo with a mono sound like drums, isn't the copied track 
gonna be the same, hence not allowing you to get a panned sound? wouldn't i 
have to actually play the drum track on a new track and pan them that way?
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: D!J!X! 
        To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 10:48 PM
        Subject: [ddots-l] Re: drums a wider sound


        if you're doing hip hop, here are some ways:
        Take to samples that sound similar or that you might already be 
layering. split them out to 2 separate tracks and pan them out a bit. If you're 
only using 1 sample, take a copy of the track, change the pitch on it a bit and 
again play with the panning. Spread the channels out as far as you'd like to 
split the sound. The same can be applied to kicks, it all depends on what kick 
type you're using. For a bass kick like a tooned 808 or 909, you could do some 
of it, for other more thump kicks or dry kicks that serve as gound for the 
beat, it might not be a good idea.
        Another way of widening the stereo image for any instrument that is 
mono or too centered, pan it out to 1 side, then get a delay effect and insert 
it, send the delay back on the opposite side and set a small amount of delay. 
play with the setting till you get the amount of widening you want. Hard to 
explain in writing, this is 1 of those things that works better as a walk 
through. 
        These are some of the techniques i can think of from the top of my 
head, there's more though.

        HTH, D!J!X!



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        From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Omar Binno
        Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 10:22 PM
        To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [ddots-l] drums a wider sound


        Hello,

        I've gotten the art of making my drums sound decent as far as 
punchiness, bass, loudness, etc. What i'm wondering, though, is what's a good 
way to make them sound wider? I know drums aren't usually recorded completely 
stereo, but i'm listening to radio recordings and the drums sound wider than 
they do in my recordings. any plugins or techniques you folks could recommend?

        Thanks for all input!


        Omar Binno

        Website: www.bigoproductions.net
        AIM: LOD1116

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