[ddots-l] Re: drums a wider sound

  • From: "Darren H" <darren@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 18:29:51 +0100

yeah, if the left and right panned tracks are absolutely spot on in time with 
each other, they cancel the panning out and will appear to be centered.

Cheers
Darren

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mike Christer 
  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 7:14 PM
  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: drums a wider sound


  First, you've gotta pan each separate track.  
  when you copy & paste the original to its nu destination, paste it not 
beginning at, for instance, bar 01:01:01, but at bar 01: 01: 025...  

  along with the panning, this creates the width, akin to quote tracking 
unquote, or "double-tracking"...  

  l8r

  Mike
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Omar Binno 
    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 4:27 PM
    Subject: [ddots-l] Re: drums a wider sound


    DJX,

    if we just copy a track, doesn't it just copy the info from it? so if a 
track is recorded stereo with a mono sound like drums, isn't the copied track 
gonna be the same, hence not allowing you to get a panned sound? wouldn't i 
have to actually play the drum track on a new track and pan them that way?
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: D!J!X! 
      To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 10:48 PM
      Subject: [ddots-l] Re: drums a wider sound


      if you're doing hip hop, here are some ways:
      Take to samples that sound similar or that you might already be layering. 
split them out to 2 separate tracks and pan them out a bit. If you're only 
using 1 sample, take a copy of the track, change the pitch on it a bit and 
again play with the panning. Spread the channels out as far as you'd like to 
split the sound. The same can be applied to kicks, it all depends on what kick 
type you're using. For a bass kick like a tooned 808 or 909, you could do some 
of it, for other more thump kicks or dry kicks that serve as gound for the 
beat, it might not be a good idea.
      Another way of widening the stereo image for any instrument that is mono 
or too centered, pan it out to 1 side, then get a delay effect and insert it, 
send the delay back on the opposite side and set a small amount of delay. play 
with the setting till you get the amount of widening you want. Hard to explain 
in writing, this is 1 of those things that works better as a walk through. 
      These are some of the techniques i can think of from the top of my head, 
there's more though.

      HTH, D!J!X!



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      From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
On Behalf Of Omar Binno
      Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 10:22 PM
      To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Subject: [ddots-l] drums a wider sound


      Hello,

      I've gotten the art of making my drums sound decent as far as punchiness, 
bass, loudness, etc. What i'm wondering, though, is what's a good way to make 
them sound wider? I know drums aren't usually recorded completely stereo, but 
i'm listening to radio recordings and the drums sound wider than they do in my 
recordings. any plugins or techniques you folks could recommend?

      Thanks for all input!


      Omar Binno

      Website: www.bigoproductions.net
      AIM: LOD1116

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