[duxuser] Re: single quotes and apostrophes

  • From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 22:31:48 +0100

We've just been looking at Word's "Smart Quotes" feature,
and it isn't as smart is it should be.

To begin with, there are actually SIX distinct windows
characters, all available even as far back as Windows 3.1.

Apostrophe
Quotation Mark
Left Single Quotation Mark
Right Single Quotation Mark
Left Double Quotation Mark
Right Double Quotation Mark

Anyone with access to Windows's Character Map program can
verify this.

However, when Word does its thing on Smart Quotes, it isn't
even clever enough to look at its own spelling checker.
Moreover the spell checker is clever enough to see that
"isn't" is a valid word, but not clever enough to see that
it should have an apostrophe and not a Right Single
Quotation Mark.

I'll say now that there's no chance of this being fixed for
DBT 10.5, but in addition to my firing off a bug Report
about Word 2003, (still in Beta) additional reports will
soon be going off to other areas within Microsoft.

George Bell.


-----Original Message-----
From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Foxworth,
Ann
Sent: 05 May 2003 20:31
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

There will always be an element of ambiguity since braille
is not print.  I know BANA is trying to reduce these
barriers between braille and print but we can and should
never expect braille to be print.  As for the capitals, I
have always wondered how blind children in Britton learn
what is to be capitalized and what is not, because they
surely need to know this when they go into the job market.

Ann Foxworth, Computer Braille Specialist Texas Commission
for the Blind 4800 N. Lamar BLVD Suite # 130 Austin, TX
78756
PH: (512) 377-0654


-----Original Message-----
From: Senk, Mark J. [mailto:zia7@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 2:19 PM
To: 'duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [duxuser] Re: single quotes and apostrophes



But there are those who might say that the capital sign is
not needed since the reader should know which words get
capitalized.

I guess 64 combinations are not sufficient, but the goal for
Braille rules should be to represent the print with no
ambiguity.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Terri Pannett [mailto:pann1@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 1:12 PM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: single quotes and apostrophes


If the rules were change so both single quote and apostrophe
were dot 3, the
computer wouldn't have to distinguish between them--only the
reader would.

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AAT9PX,
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