Hi Flor, To be quite honest, I can't personally blame screen reader companies for altering their internal dictionaries to suit the times and the available technology. The computer and literary world are slowly beginning to get their collective acts together, and have for example, mostly agreed on consistent names for specific characters, if only in Unicode. However, the spin off could be quite significant for braille users. As I eluded to in my earlier posting, if we can persuade the likes of Microsoft to do their Smart Quote conversion properly, this whole Subject Thread would be dead and gone in an instant. DBT would see the six possibles and know exactly what to do with them. There is nevertheless one concession required perhaps, and that is in dealing with text which is not, or can not, be passed though the Smart Quote process. My own suggestion, for what it's worth, is simply two signs. Apostrophe and Quotation Mark. And at the start of the text, a transcriber's note says whether or not these are being used. The reader can them make their own judgement. Now, moving on, what are we going to do about parenthesis? :-)( (Funny smile) George Bell. -----Original Message----- From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch Sent: 06 May 2003 00:24 To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx As it is, with often only the one sign for the quote and the apostrophe to worry about, the screen reader program (which we braille readers use when braille is not available) often misidentifies which is which. I'm not the only person to remark on how annoying this can be. Perhaps we have enough ambiguous signs already in contracted or standardised braille, or we should get rid of many such coding ambiguities, before introducing another - even with the best of motives <grin>. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terri Pannett" <pann1@xxxxxxxxx> To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 6:12 PM Subject: [duxuser] Re: single quotes and apostrophes If the rules were change so both single quote and apostrophe were dot 3, the computer wouldn't have to distinguish between them--only the reader would. Terri Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA. Army MARS call sign AAT9PX, CaliforniaTerri Amateur Radio call sign KF6CA. Army MARS call sign AAT9PX, California * * * * This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with * unsubscribe * as the subject to <duxuser-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive * is also located there. * Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com * * * * * * * This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with * unsubscribe * as the subject to <duxuser-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive * is also located there. * Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com * * * * * * * This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with * unsubscribe * as the subject to <duxuser-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive * is also located there. * Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com * * *