You don't. All the major outlets have been doing in recent years is exalting Macs over PCs. Macs are out selling PCs at this point in the market on a quarterly basis. There has to be a reason for that. I'd take a Mac and VoiceOver over Any Windows system with NVDA any day of the week and have done so. Again, though, we are in the realm of opinion and I don't think list members need to read opinion pieces here. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 Mountain Lion AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT > On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:48 PM, Todor Fassl <fassl.tod@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I don't find any documentation for PC World recommending the Mac over various > PCs. If someone could supply a link I'd appreciate it. IMO, it's a tough > call. A Mac with voiceover is going to be a lot more expensive than a Windows > machine with nvda. Which gives better bang for the buck? I think it is a > tough call. > I can even see a case for a linux machine with orca being the best bang for > the buck. Linux and orca will run on just about anything. You can probably > buy a used computer for $100, put linux on it, and have a machine with a > screen reader for just the cost of the bare hardware. > > On 03/23/2015 10:33 AM, Scott Granados wrote: >> Absolutely agreed. >> >> Even PC Magazine agrees with you and elected the Mac PC of the year, I think >> few times now. >> >> >> On Mar 23, 2015, at 11:20 AM, David hilbert poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> wrote: >> >>> besides, windows runs better on a mac. >>> >>> On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:20 AM, Lena Contreras wrote: >>> >>> Yes. My Mac is approaching five years old. When I had my other windows >>> laptops, when they were around four years old they would start acting >>> strangely. They would crash for no reason the speech would stop working and >>> I would have to reboot or other strange things would happen. So far, my Mac >>> is running fine. I know Friends that have eight or nine-year-old Max that >>> are running well but won't support the latest OSX. When somebody's getting >>> a new computer, I recommend a Macintosh. But some of my friends are Fred to >>> make the switch because of having to relearn things. Also the Mac is more >>> expensive and they want to spend less on the computer. And some of my >>> computer geek friends don't like the "control "that Apple has. >>> Lena >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>>> On Mar 23, 2015, at 5:31 AM, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>> +1 Microsoft has scarred me too. It’s hard to get over that level of bad >>>> design and lack of security. >>>> >>>>> On Mar 22, 2015, at 11:47 AM, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Unfortunately, I keep having this nightmare that I still have to use >>>>> Windows to train a few clients, but it's actually reality and not some >>>>> bad dream. I guess, in your case, the psychological scars remain ... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Take Care >>>>> >>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>> Director >>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>>> >>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX 10.7 LION and 10.8 >>>>> Mountain Lion >>>>> >>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>> >>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 22, 2015, at 10:30 AM, Lena Contreras <contreras_lena@xxxxxx> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I was listening to a couple podcasts yesterday about the new Apple >>>>>> MacBook and Apple Watch. Last night I had a strange dream. I dreamt that >>>>>> I was typing away on a laptop who's screen would not stay open and I had >>>>>> to lay it down flat on the table like an iPad. It didn't bother me >>>>>> though because I was listening to the voice and did not need to see the >>>>>> screen and an angle. >>>>>> I remember I was typing and all of a sudden realize that there was no >>>>>> voice feedback. When I checked to see if the computer was running it had >>>>>> crashed. I somehow knew that it was a Windows machine and wondered why I >>>>>> did not hear the sound I had originally used to tell me when the >>>>>> computer was crashing. I remember feeling frustrated and thinking that I >>>>>> should get a Mac. I just thought it was very weird to have this dream >>>>>> when my MacBook Pro is running well and I have not touched a Windows >>>>>> computer in about five years. 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