[mac4theblind] Re: Strange and startling dream
- From: David hilbert poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 17:17:01 -0400
Apple listens Microsoft don't
-- Jonnie Appleseed With His Hands-on Technolog(eye)s touching the internet
reducing technology's disabilities one byte at a time
On Mar 23, 2015, at 16:29, Todor Fassl <fassl.tod@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
But pointing out that someone could write another screen reader for Mac OS is
not a point in favor of voiceover. The fact is that with voiceover, you are
depending on the good will of Apple Incorporated. You arestuck with their
release cycle and their willingness to fix bugs. That's not true for any of the
other screen readers. Even jaws has it's own release cycle independent of
Microsoft.
> On 03/23/2015 02:05 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> And I don’t think just because voiceover is built in that precludes other
> people from entering the space. I myself wouldn’t want to compete with Apple
> but that doesn’t mean someone else wouldn’t feel differently.
>
>> On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:39 PM, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> No, I think having one company responsible for the OS and the screen
>> reader is a much better long term solution. NVDA is open source and open to
>> a community of developers. As I said, it has drawbacks compared to
>> Window-Eyes and JAWS, and those limitations cannot be compared necessarily
>> across platforms. In reality, all screen readers conceptual set out to do
>> the same things, but on the Mac because of the Mac's stability and security,
>> that alone gives it plenty of advantage over Windows.
>>
>> As for complex keyboard combination, know your screen reader. The same
>> things can be said for Windows too. With VO, use Numpad Commander, Keyboard
>> commander or a third party product like, Spark, and your complexity is
>> simplified tremendously.
>>
>> The bottom line is I get work done on my Mac with VoiceOver and I don't
>> fight with the OS. In Windows, half the time is spent dealing with the OS
>> and Trying to get work done.
>>
>>
>> Take Care
>>
>> John D. Panarese
>> Director
>> Mac for the Blind
>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
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>>> On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:28 PM, Todor Fassl <fassl.tod@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> Oh, I forgot to mention ... I'm not sure that being integrated into the
>>> operating system is a significant advantage. The main advantage appears to
>>> be that it works right out of the box. There's no installation.
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