Well, I was arguing bang for the buck with respect to linux, orca, and a yardsale special. If you want to compare apples to oranges [no pun intended], you could compare a Dell Optiplex with a 3 year on-site warranty and linux/orca to a Mac. The linux machine would definitely be cheaper.
PS: I am really getting a lot out of this debate. Trust me, it will help a lot when I have this same debate with jaws and nvda users.
On 03/23/2015 02:08 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
And you get what you pay for. If I spend the money and get an Apple I get the support of the company which is very good, I get good quality current hardware and a very solid configuration that just works. Your yard sale special can’t match that especially in the business world. Maybe for the home hobby user but not in the professional space. At least that’s been my experience yours may vary and I find your viewpoints well reasoned and very interesting btw.On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:48 PM, Todor Fassl <fassl.tod@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:I don't find any documentation for PC World recommending the Mac over various PCs. If someone could supply a link I'd appreciate it. IMO, it's a tough call. A Mac with voiceover is going to be a lot more expensive than a Windows machine with nvda. Which gives better bang for the buck? I think it is a tough call. I can even see a case for a linux machine with orca being the best bang for the buck. Linux and orca will run on just about anything. You can probably buy a used computer for $100, put linux on it, and have a machine with a screen reader for just the cost of the bare hardware. On 03/23/2015 10:33 AM, Scott Granados wrote:Absolutely agreed. Even PC Magazine agrees with you and elected the Mac PC of the year, I think few times now. On Mar 23, 2015, at 11:20 AM, David hilbert poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:besides, windows runs better on a mac. On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:20 AM, Lena Contreras wrote: Yes. My Mac is approaching five years old. When I had my other windows laptops, when they were around four years old they would start acting strangely. They would crash for no reason the speech would stop working and I would have to reboot or other strange things would happen. So far, my Mac is running fine. I know Friends that have eight or nine-year-old Max that are running well but won't support the latest OSX. When somebody's getting a new computer, I recommend a Macintosh. But some of my friends are Fred to make the switch because of having to relearn things. Also the Mac is more expensive and they want to spend less on the computer. And some of my computer geek friends don't like the "control "that Apple has. Lena Sent from my iPadOn Mar 23, 2015, at 5:31 AM, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: +1 Microsoft has scarred me too. It’s hard to get over that level of bad design and lack of security.On Mar 22, 2015, at 11:47 AM, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Unfortunately, I keep having this nightmare that I still have to use Windows to train a few clients, but it's actually reality and not some bad dream. I guess, in your case, the psychological scars remain ... Take Care John D. 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