[mac4theblind] Re: Strange and startling dream
- From: Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 19:40:19 +0000
I think that the fact Microsoft is in a state of decline and Apple is not is
one piece of evidence. Also, I remember at the second to last Keynote Apple
announced that the growth rate in Apple computers (both laptops and desktops)
was on a very high upward curve where windows based devices was on a downward
spiral. I will look for some hard numbers for you but I think John is correct
in his statement. I have a client who just replaced 60,000 Dell laptops with
Macbook Pros.
On Mar 23, 2015, at 3:36 PM, Todor Fassl <fassl.tod@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Are you claiming Mac desktops are outselling Windows desktops? I'd like to
> see some documentation for that. If it turns out that you are wrong, are you
> going to consider it a point in favor of Windows? If Windows desktops are
> still outselling Macs, there must be some reason for that, right?
>
> I am sensing a certain amount of defensiveness in your comments, John. I am
> not a Windows advocate. I'm trying to get at the truth.
>
> On 03/23/2015 02:00 PM, John Panarese wrote:
>> You don't. All the major outlets have been doing in recent years is
>> exalting Macs over PCs. Macs are out selling PCs at this point in the market
>> on a quarterly basis. There has to be a reason for that. I'd take a Mac
>> and VoiceOver over Any Windows system with NVDA any day of the week and have
>> done so.
>>
>> Again, though, we are in the realm of opinion and I don't think list
>> members need to read opinion pieces here.
>>
>>
>> Take Care
>>
>> John D. Panarese
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>>> On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:48 PM, Todor Fassl <fassl.tod@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't find any documentation for PC World recommending the Mac over
>>> various PCs. If someone could supply a link I'd appreciate it. IMO, it's a
>>> tough call. A Mac with voiceover is going to be a lot more expensive than a
>>> Windows machine with nvda. Which gives better bang for the buck? I think it
>>> is a tough call.
>>> I can even see a case for a linux machine with orca being the best bang for
>>> the buck. Linux and orca will run on just about anything. You can probably
>>> buy a used computer for $100, put linux on it, and have a machine with a
>>> screen reader for just the cost of the bare hardware.
>>>
>>> On 03/23/2015 10:33 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>>> Absolutely agreed.
>>>>
>>>> Even PC Magazine agrees with you and elected the Mac PC of the year, I
>>>> think few times now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 23, 2015, at 11:20 AM, David hilbert poehlman
>>>> <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> besides, windows runs better on a mac.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:20 AM, Lena Contreras wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes. My Mac is approaching five years old. When I had my other windows
>>>>> laptops, when they were around four years old they would start acting
>>>>> strangely. They would crash for no reason the speech would stop working
>>>>> and I would have to reboot or other strange things would happen. So far,
>>>>> my Mac is running fine. I know Friends that have eight or nine-year-old
>>>>> Max that are running well but won't support the latest OSX. When
>>>>> somebody's getting a new computer, I recommend a Macintosh. But some of
>>>>> my friends are Fred to make the switch because of having to relearn
>>>>> things. Also the Mac is more expensive and they want to spend less on the
>>>>> computer. And some of my computer geek friends don't like the "control
>>>>> "that Apple has.
>>>>> Lena
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 23, 2015, at 5:31 AM, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +1 Microsoft has scarred me too. It’s hard to get over that level of
>>>>>> bad design and lack of security.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2015, at 11:47 AM, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unfortunately, I keep having this nightmare that I still have to use
>>>>>>> Windows to train a few clients, but it's actually reality and not some
>>>>>>> bad dream. I guess, in your case, the psychological scars remain ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John D. Panarese
>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>> Mac for the Blind
>>>>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>>>>>> Email, john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 22, 2015, at 10:30 AM, Lena Contreras <contreras_lena@xxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I was listening to a couple podcasts yesterday about the new Apple
>>>>>>>> MacBook and Apple Watch. Last night I had a strange dream. I dreamt
>>>>>>>> that I was typing away on a laptop who's screen would not stay open
>>>>>>>> and I had to lay it down flat on the table like an iPad. It didn't
>>>>>>>> bother me though because I was listening to the voice and did not need
>>>>>>>> to see the screen and an angle.
>>>>>>>> I remember I was typing and all of a sudden realize that there was no
>>>>>>>> voice feedback. When I checked to see if the computer was running it
>>>>>>>> had crashed. I somehow knew that it was a Windows machine and wondered
>>>>>>>> why I did not hear the sound I had originally used to tell me when the
>>>>>>>> computer was crashing. I remember feeling frustrated and thinking that
>>>>>>>> I should get a Mac. I just thought it was very weird to have this
>>>>>>>> dream when my MacBook Pro is running well and I have not touched a
>>>>>>>> Windows computer in about five years. Funny how the brain works.
>>>>>>>> Lena
>>>>>>>>
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