[mac4theblind] Re: Strange and startling dream

  • From: Todor Fassl <fassl.tod@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 14:36:23 -0500

Are you claiming Mac desktops are outselling Windows desktops? I'd like to see some documentation for that. If it turns out that you are wrong, are you going to consider it a point in favor of Windows? If Windows desktops are still outselling Macs, there must be some reason for that, right?


I am sensing a certain amount of defensiveness in your comments, John. I am not a Windows advocate. I'm trying to get at the truth.

On 03/23/2015 02:00 PM, John Panarese wrote:
    You don't. All the major outlets have been doing in recent years is 
exalting Macs over PCs. Macs are out selling PCs at this point in the market on 
a quarterly basis.  There has to be a reason for that.  I'd take a Mac and 
VoiceOver over Any Windows system with NVDA any day of the week and have done 
so.

     Again, though, we are in the realm of opinion and I don't think list 
members need to read opinion pieces here.


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On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:48 PM, Todor Fassl <fassl.tod@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I don't find any documentation for PC World recommending the Mac over various 
PCs. If someone could supply a link I'd appreciate it. IMO, it's a tough call. 
A Mac with voiceover is going to be a lot more expensive than a Windows machine 
with nvda. Which gives better bang for the buck? I think it is a tough call.
I can even see a case for a linux machine with orca being the best bang for the 
buck. Linux and orca will run on just about anything. You can probably buy a 
used computer for $100, put linux on it, and have a  machine with a screen 
reader for just the cost of the bare hardware.

On 03/23/2015 10:33 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
Absolutely agreed.

Even PC Magazine agrees with you and elected the Mac PC of the year, I think  
few times now.


On Mar 23, 2015, at 11:20 AM, David hilbert poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:

besides, windows runs better on a mac.

On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:20 AM, Lena Contreras wrote:

Yes. My Mac is approaching five years old. When I had my other windows laptops, when they 
were around four years old they would start acting strangely. They would crash for no 
reason the speech would stop working and I would have to reboot or other strange things 
would happen. So far, my Mac is running fine. I know Friends that have eight or 
nine-year-old Max that are running well but won't support the latest OSX. When somebody's 
getting a new computer, I recommend a Macintosh. But some of my friends are Fred to make 
the switch because of having to relearn things. Also the Mac is more expensive and they 
want to spend less on the computer. And some of my computer geek friends don't like the 
"control "that Apple has.
Lena

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 23, 2015, at 5:31 AM, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

+1 Microsoft has scarred me too.  It’s hard to get over that level of bad 
design and lack of security.

On Mar 22, 2015, at 11:47 AM, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Unfortunately, I keep having this nightmare that I still have to use Windows to 
train a few clients, but it's actually reality and not some bad dream. I guess, 
in your case, the psychological scars remain ...


Take Care

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On Mar 22, 2015, at 10:30 AM, Lena Contreras <contreras_lena@xxxxxx> wrote:

I was listening to a couple podcasts yesterday about the new Apple MacBook and 
Apple Watch. Last night I had a strange dream. I dreamt that I was typing away 
on a laptop who's screen would not stay open and I had to lay it down flat on 
the table like an iPad. It didn't bother me though because I was listening to 
the voice and did not need to see the screen and an angle.
I remember I was typing and all of a sudden realize that there was no voice 
feedback. When I checked to see if the computer was running it had crashed. I 
somehow knew that it was a Windows machine and wondered why I did not hear the 
sound I had originally used to tell me when the computer was crashing. I 
remember feeling frustrated and thinking that I should get a Mac. I just 
thought it was very weird to have this dream when my MacBook Pro is running 
well and I have not touched a Windows computer in about five years. Funny how 
the brain works.
Lena

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