[mac4theblind] Re: Strange and startling dream

  • From: David hilbert poehlman <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <mac4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 17:14:16 -0400

in my experience you get what you pay for


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On Mar 23, 2015, at 16:49, Todor Fassl <fassl.tod@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Well, I was arguing bang for the buck with respect to linux, orca, and a 
yardsale special. If you want to compare apples to oranges [no pun intended], 
you could compare a Dell Optiplex with a 3 year on-site warranty and linux/orca 
to a Mac. The linux machine would definitely  be cheaper.

PS: I am really getting a lot out of this debate. Trust me, it will help a lot 
when I have this same debate with jaws and nvda users.

> On 03/23/2015 02:08 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
> And you get what you pay for.
> 
> If I spend the money and get an Apple I get the support of the company which 
> is very good, I get good quality current hardware and a very solid 
> configuration that just works.  Your yard sale special can’t match that 
> especially in the business world.  Maybe for the home hobby user but not in 
> the professional space.  At least that’s been my experience yours may vary 
> and I find your viewpoints well reasoned and very interesting btw.
>  
>> On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:48 PM, Todor Fassl <fassl.tod@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 
>> I don't find any documentation for PC World recommending the Mac over 
>> various PCs. If someone could supply a link I'd appreciate it. IMO, it's a 
>> tough call. A Mac with voiceover is going to be a lot more expensive than a 
>> Windows machine with nvda. Which gives better bang for the buck? I think it 
>> is a tough call.
>> I can even see a case for a linux machine with orca being the best bang for 
>> the buck. Linux and orca will run on just about anything. You can probably 
>> buy a used computer for $100, put linux on it, and have a  machine with a 
>> screen reader for just the cost of the bare hardware.
>> 
>>> On 03/23/2015 10:33 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> Absolutely agreed.
>>> 
>>> Even PC Magazine agrees with you and elected the Mac PC of the year, I 
>>> think  few times now.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 23, 2015, at 11:20 AM, David hilbert poehlman 
>>>> <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> besides, windows runs better on a mac.
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:20 AM, Lena Contreras wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Yes. My Mac is approaching five years old. When I had my other windows 
>>>> laptops, when they were around four years old they would start acting 
>>>> strangely. They would crash for no reason the speech would stop working 
>>>> and I would have to reboot or other strange things would happen. So far, 
>>>> my Mac is running fine. I know Friends that have eight or nine-year-old 
>>>> Max that are running well but won't support the latest OSX. When 
>>>> somebody's getting a new computer, I recommend a Macintosh. But some of my 
>>>> friends are Fred to make the switch because of having to relearn things. 
>>>> Also the Mac is more expensive and they want to spend less on the 
>>>> computer. And some of my computer geek friends don't like the "control 
>>>> "that Apple has.
>>>> Lena
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 23, 2015, at 5:31 AM, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> +1 Microsoft has scarred me too.  It’s hard to get over that level of bad 
>>>>> design and lack of security.

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