in my experience you get what you pay for -- Jonnie Appleseed With His Hands-on Technolog(eye)s touching the internet reducing technology's disabilities one byte at a time On Mar 23, 2015, at 16:49, Todor Fassl <fassl.tod@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: Well, I was arguing bang for the buck with respect to linux, orca, and a yardsale special. If you want to compare apples to oranges [no pun intended], you could compare a Dell Optiplex with a 3 year on-site warranty and linux/orca to a Mac. The linux machine would definitely be cheaper. PS: I am really getting a lot out of this debate. Trust me, it will help a lot when I have this same debate with jaws and nvda users. > On 03/23/2015 02:08 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > And you get what you pay for. > > If I spend the money and get an Apple I get the support of the company which > is very good, I get good quality current hardware and a very solid > configuration that just works. Your yard sale special can’t match that > especially in the business world. Maybe for the home hobby user but not in > the professional space. At least that’s been my experience yours may vary > and I find your viewpoints well reasoned and very interesting btw. > >> On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:48 PM, Todor Fassl <fassl.tod@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> I don't find any documentation for PC World recommending the Mac over >> various PCs. If someone could supply a link I'd appreciate it. IMO, it's a >> tough call. A Mac with voiceover is going to be a lot more expensive than a >> Windows machine with nvda. Which gives better bang for the buck? I think it >> is a tough call. >> I can even see a case for a linux machine with orca being the best bang for >> the buck. Linux and orca will run on just about anything. You can probably >> buy a used computer for $100, put linux on it, and have a machine with a >> screen reader for just the cost of the bare hardware. >> >>> On 03/23/2015 10:33 AM, Scott Granados wrote: >>> Absolutely agreed. >>> >>> Even PC Magazine agrees with you and elected the Mac PC of the year, I >>> think few times now. >>> >>> >>>> On Mar 23, 2015, at 11:20 AM, David hilbert poehlman >>>> <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>> besides, windows runs better on a mac. >>>> >>>> On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:20 AM, Lena Contreras wrote: >>>> >>>> Yes. My Mac is approaching five years old. When I had my other windows >>>> laptops, when they were around four years old they would start acting >>>> strangely. They would crash for no reason the speech would stop working >>>> and I would have to reboot or other strange things would happen. So far, >>>> my Mac is running fine. I know Friends that have eight or nine-year-old >>>> Max that are running well but won't support the latest OSX. When >>>> somebody's getting a new computer, I recommend a Macintosh. But some of my >>>> friends are Fred to make the switch because of having to relearn things. >>>> Also the Mac is more expensive and they want to spend less on the >>>> computer. And some of my computer geek friends don't like the "control >>>> "that Apple has. >>>> Lena >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>>> On Mar 23, 2015, at 5:31 AM, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> +1 Microsoft has scarred me too. It’s hard to get over that level of bad >>>>> design and lack of security.