Well, considering my initial comment was meant as a joke and not to start
any debates, but everyone is entitled to their opinions. IN my opinion, from
some twenty years of computer experience, JAWS is clunky and too expensive and
NVDA has its own limitations compared to the paid screen readers. VoiceOver is
free and is developed by Apple indent a bolt on screen reader. It all comes
down to opinions, which is why this list is for technical support and such, and
not an inditement of any screen reader or OS.
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On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:12 PM, Todor Fassl <fassl.tod@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Well, do we want to get into a debate over screen readers on this list? I am
not as fluent with either nvda or voiceover as I could be but they seem pretty
even to me.
Actually, if I were to rate screen readers, I'd probably pretty much rate them
all as a tie. Jaws is the best but it is also the most expensive. Voiceover is
the second best and second most expensive. It's not free after all. You have to
buy Apple hardware and operating system. Nvda may not be as good as jaws and
voiceover but it is totally free. I have never used Window-eyes. I use orca a
lot but if there was one screen reader I'd put in last place,it might be orca.
I suppose these comments will be controversial on this list. Please feel free
to correct my misconceptions. But please try to be polite.
On 03/23/2015 09:42 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
And all are bolt on after thoughts. NVDA, JFW, WE, what ever they are all
after thoughts compared to Voice Over which is integrated like any other
feature in the OS.
On Mar 23, 2015, at 10:26 AM, Todor Fassl <fassl.tod@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
There is a free screen reader for Windows though. It's called nvda.
On 03/23/2015 08:57 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
Actually, the Mac is not more expensive when you add in the cost of the screen
reader. Remember you need to add a grand or so if you’re installing JFW on
that new machine so add that to the cost. Voice Over is included for free so
that cost is already covered.
On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:20 AM, Lena Contreras <contreras_lena@xxxxxx> wrote:
Yes. My Mac is approaching five years old. When I had my other windows laptops, when they
were around four years old they would start acting strangely. They would crash for no
reason the speech would stop working and I would have to reboot or other strange things
would happen. So far, my Mac is running fine. I know Friends that have eight or
nine-year-old Max that are running well but won't support the latest OSX. When somebody's
getting a new computer, I recommend a Macintosh. But some of my friends are Fred to make
the switch because of having to relearn things. Also the Mac is more expensive and they
want to spend less on the computer. And some of my computer geek friends don't like the
"control "that Apple has.
Lena
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On Mar 23, 2015, at 5:31 AM, Scott Granados <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
+1 Microsoft has scarred me too. It’s hard to get over that level of bad
design and lack of security.
On Mar 22, 2015, at 11:47 AM, John Panarese <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Unfortunately, I keep having this nightmare that I still have to use Windows to
train a few clients, but it's actually reality and not some bad dream. I guess,
in your case, the psychological scars remain ...
Take Care
John D. Panarese
Director
Mac for the Blind
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On Mar 22, 2015, at 10:30 AM, Lena Contreras <contreras_lena@xxxxxx> wrote:
I was listening to a couple podcasts yesterday about the new Apple MacBook and
Apple Watch. Last night I had a strange dream. I dreamt that I was typing away
on a laptop who's screen would not stay open and I had to lay it down flat on
the table like an iPad. It didn't bother me though because I was listening to
the voice and did not need to see the screen and an angle.
I remember I was typing and all of a sudden realize that there was no voice
feedback. When I checked to see if the computer was running it had crashed. I
somehow knew that it was a Windows machine and wondered why I did not hear the
sound I had originally used to tell me when the computer was crashing. I
remember feeling frustrated and thinking that I should get a Mac. I just
thought it was very weird to have this dream when my MacBook Pro is running
well and I have not touched a Windows computer in about five years. Funny how
the brain works.
Lena
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